Curse

jl2k2 · Nov 03, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Hi,

I am currently in a state that finding starting a new chacter is like a big money sink + grind for me right now, especailly one that doesn't earn you much cash such as assasin and Paragon.

But I am tempted now, because of the skill "Save yourselves"

Right now I am thinking: (forgive me I do not know how to do the icon thingy but if some one knows it will be nice to converted it for me, cheers)

1.) Focused Anger

2.) Aggresive Refrain

3.)"Save yourselves"

toss in a couple of shouts and chants, your team mates will pretty much be having +100 armor constantly,

comments??

Diddy bow · Nov 03, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

yep , thats what i owned NF+Gwen with, really cant be beat by anything in the game

. Remember to take TNTF.

Twlight · Nov 03, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl2k2

[skill]Focused Anger[/skill]

[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill]

[skill]"save yourselves!" (kurzick)[/skill]

The icon trick is just done by writing

Code:

[skill*]Skill Name[/skill]

without the asterix. And I can't seem to find out what it wants for SY.

Oblivious Moose · Nov 03, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

i was taught to use the "card" to show skills, like [ card ]skill name[/card] (without the spaces in the 1st "card" anyways the new pve only skills, suck as SY, are not yet updated on guru, thats the reason why you cannot find it.

and yes SY with TNTF works well for any area, maybe too well... ive been playing around with other skillbars, jusst for variety, and using it to vanquish HM cantha atm. it really depends on where you are. in the city areas, i used [card]"incoming!"[/card] all those mages spioking with dragon stomp really annoyed me. (esp when you cant put SY up, due to no adrenaline yet. start of battle)

just find w/e suits you. if your looking for a class that can reap in the $$, i would suiggest you go assassin, that lame shadow form boss farmer, can farm literally anywhere.. as for the paragon.. not so much.. you can create farming builds, but they are hard to do, considering the 2 pips of regen.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 05, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl2k2

Hi,

I am currently in a state that finding starting a new chacter is like a big money sink + grind for me right now, especailly one that doesn't earn you much cash such as assasin and Paragon.

But I am tempted now, because of the skill "Save yourselves"

Right now I am thinking: (forgive me I do not know how to do the icon thingy but if some one knows it will be nice to converted it for me, cheers)

1.) Focused Anger

2.) Aggresive Refrain

3.)"Save yourselves"

toss in a couple of shouts and chants, your team mates will pretty much be having +100 armor constantly,

comments??

pretty sure that's half of racthoh's bar (I assume you'd run TNTF) that we use to do all of doa in 2.5 hours with; the rest of the group's job is to keep him clean. It's incredibly powerful, and who needs incoming when you can get better mileage out of two non-elite skills?

jl2k2 · Nov 05, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

man...looks like a build as such has already been around for a while....i am tempted.....but...the grind and the gold sink~~~~

Racthoh · Nov 05, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

pretty sure that's half of racthoh's bar (I assume you'd run TNTF) that we use to do all of doa in 2.5 hours with; the rest of the group's job is to keep him clean. It's incredibly powerful, and who needs incoming when you can get better mileage out of two non-elite skills?

Aggressive Refrain
Save Yourselves
Focussed Anger {E}
There's Nothing To Fear!
For Great Justice!/Ebon Battle Standard of Honor (when using consumables)
Vicious Attack
Spear of Lightning
Signet of Return

Spear Mastery: 14
Leadership: 13

If you care about a shield just adjust as necessary. Keep it clean of hexes, blind, find a target you can hit and everyone lives.

Puzur · Nov 12, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

I used a similar build but it was strictly a support build. No attack skills or points in spear mastery what so ever. I used these skills:

Save yourselves
Focused Anger (E)
There's nothing to fear
Song of power
Go for the eyes
Never surrender
Never give up

Stats:

Leadership: 10+1+3
Command:9
Rest of the points in motivation

The last skill in the bar i usually change depending on the area and team.

If fire nuker in party-They're on fire, works really great in combination with TNTF

If you often gets targeted by silence-Remedy signet

Otherwise I usually go for-Leaders comfort

when it comes to equipment i go for a max armor with centurions insignias, and for the runes I go Superior motivation and a superior vigor, rest is free to use.

For equipment I go for a furious spear damage is not important since it is only for gaining adrenaline. And for the shield i use Shagu´s anthem.

With this setup i got almost constantly above 70-80% of energy since 2 of the skills are only powered by adrenaline and therefore they gives you TONS in return due to the fast recharge of them. That makes it really easy to use SoP between each encounter to help the nukers and monks regain their energy.

Comments are welcome :-)

iridescentfyre · Nov 12, 2007, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl2k2

Hi,

I am currently in a state that finding starting a new chacter is like a big money sink + grind for me right now, especailly one that doesn't earn you much cash such as assasin and Paragon.

But I am tempted now, because of the skill "Save yourselves"

Right now I am thinking: (forgive me I do not know how to do the icon thingy but if some one knows it will be nice to converted it for me, cheers)

1.) Focused Anger

2.) Aggresive Refrain

3.)"Save yourselves"

toss in a couple of shouts and chants, your team mates will pretty much be having +100 armor constantly,

comments??

Well, its essentially old news, just make sure you bring along "There's Nothing to Fear!" as well. And yeah, it makes PvE even more of a joke.

holababe · Nov 12, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puzur

I used a similar build but it was strictly a support build. No attack skills or points in spear mastery what so ever. I used these skills:

Save yourselves
Focused Anger (E)
There's nothing to fear
Song of power
Go for the eyes
Never surrender
Never give up

Stats:

Leadership: 10+1+3
Command:9
Rest of the points in motivation

The last skill in the bar i usually change depending on the area and team.

If fire nuker in party-They're on fire, works really great in combination with TNTF

If you often gets targeted by silence-Remedy signet

Otherwise I usually go for-Leaders comfort

when it comes to equipment i go for a max armor with centurions insignias, and for the runes I go Superior motivation and a superior vigor, rest is free to use.

For equipment I go for a furious spear damage is not important since it is only for gaining adrenaline. And for the shield i use Shagu´s anthem.

With this setup i got almost constantly above 70-80% of energy since 2 of the skills are only powered by adrenaline and therefore they gives you TONS in return due to the fast recharge of them. That makes it really easy to use SoP between each encounter to help the nukers and monks regain their energy.

Comments are welcome :-)

As your last skill, take Signet of Return.
Paragons should have a rez.

DFrost · Nov 12, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16

I used [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill] + [skill]Soldier's Fury[/skill] in a FoW clearance run last weekend for the simple reason that my Para isn't far enough in NF to have capped [skill]Focused Anger[/skill] yet. It's probably an inferior alternative, but with a furious spear the adrenaline gain is still high enough to support SY! spamming quite well.

Puzur · Nov 12, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Yes a return sig could really be of use, and of course I just HAD to type an error in my post, I use a Superior Leadership rune NOT a motivation :-)

hurric · Nov 15, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

For DOA, which yields better results? Since I was the only para in the team, I ran a motivation build along with Save yourselves and Song of Resto as my Elite.

It seems like the only time Save Yourelves (As the only adrenaline skill) would be useful is when there's another motivation para in the team.

Partly reason I'm asking is I'm getting a shield and not sure whether to get motivation or command (Tormented)

Btw, we ran a fow team with 2 paras and I was the motivation para with a command para and we took so many mobs at the same time and survived through it, it was ridiculous and we had 2 paras and 6 heros and was still ridiculously manageable and fun!

mrlopes · Nov 20, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Question:
Isn't Spear of Fury a good one to take in this build?
It helps to build adrenaline and add some output dmg.
I have r4 in kurzik so that's more 3 adren per hit, it helps to fuel SY

erfweiss · Nov 20, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

I've almost completed vanquishing Cantha with this bar.

Spear of Lightning
Spear of Fury
Focused Anger
"Save Yourselves"
"There's nothing to Fear"
Go for the Eyes
Never surrender
Signet of return